Peter, Again you seem to be taking what I say and using it as a press release for the Manchester Withington Labour Party! I am not a spokes person for the Labour Party and my comments on this site derive from my own personal beliefs. There is no way that I will post on this site and attempt to justify the deaths of 20,000 people... I wouldn't post on this site and try to justify the death of 5 people. The fact is, like you have said Peter, no one knows the exact figure but the figure doesn't matter; just one innocent death is a death too many. There are many rights and wrongs about the current conflict and believe it or not I'm not an advocate of charging around the world 'spreading freedom and democracy' to these ' troubled countries'. What I am an advocate of is ensuring that the national security of our country isn't compromised and that one dictator with a few long range weapons doesn't provoke wide scale conflict throughout the middle east. Your comments Peter are unhelpful, I do not look upon the deaths of so many innocent people in Iraq as justified, just as I don't look on the death of thousands of innocent office workers in the WTC as justified.

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