Dave, you seem to be a man of many figures, I'd love to know where you are getting them from! Tim, what are you upto at the moment then, very hastily running round as many doctors as you can find asking them to sign a pre dated petition? If the petition did exist then why can the MEN not provide us with a copy? Why can Christie Hospital or MR Leech not provide us with a copy, NOW?? Because there isn't one! That's why!